Jul 29, 2020
Welcome to Finance and Fury, the Say What Wednesday edition.
This week’s question is from Scott:
“Hi Louis,
I am currently in my 30s and have recently bought my first home.
I would like to get your view if I should take advantage of low
interest rates and start to put additional funds into my mortgage
or if I should be thinking long term and investing instead. My
mortgage is around $580,000 and I would like try to get this paid
off as soon as possible but at the same time, know that investing
could put me in a better position. Would love to get your thoughts
on this.”
Great question - Invest or pay off debts –
This episode is general in nature - This isn’t personal advice –
look at the pros and cons of paying off debt versus investing –
look at the opportunity cost of each situation
- What is the right thing to do? Depends on your goals and
financial position – one strategy isn’t right for everyone
- Someone in their 20s – may be better to invest – have long
timeframe for funds to grow -
- Someone in their 50s – may be better to pay debt
- First step is to look at your overall levels of debt –
- Not talking investment debt here – but bad debts – the
non-deductible debt – costs cashflow and has a negative compounding
return from the interest
- Also depends on how much debt you have and your LVR – if you
have no savings – better to save a little before investing
- Example – if you have bought your PPR for $600k – but have
$550k of mortgage on this – might be worthwhile to focus on debt
repayment for a little while –
- Put yourself back into an 80% LVR – protect from the bank
coming for your house if values went through a massive decline
- Also – have the potential to refinance for a better rate –
sometimes banks can give you a worse rate if you are seen as too
much risk
- Say you are on a decent interest rate and have an LVR of below
80% - what is best to do
Concept of hurdle rate – this changes over time – based around
interest rate movements versus long term return potentials
- Question - What is the minimum benchmark for opportunity
costs?
- You want your money to work for you – so need to price it into
the equation –
- Little point saving at the moment beyond having enough in
emergency funds
- So what is your opportunity cost for your money? Say it is 5%
p.a. – then mortgage repayment at the moment is below this level
- Interest costs versus return potentials
- Interest costs are to your income only – Debt levels don’t
grow
- Investment returns also change – have an income level but also
growth –
- Have to take into account the potential for inflation –
- Inflation is your friend if you have debt
- Inflation is not your friend if you have cash savings or an
investment
- Both situations eats away the real returns
- Current situation – Low interest rates, low inflation,
uncertainty in the markets –
- But any strategy is long term – but has to adjust over time
–
- The long term outcomes focus here – given in your 30s – long
term game – mortgage has a 30 year timeframe
Looking at the options -
- Investing – two options here - Personal or super through salary
sacrifice
- Personal investing – would need to select funds that can be
invested on a monthly basis
- Or alternatively – save up lump sums against your mortgage in
an offset account and then invest once you reach a level
- Salary Sacrifice – put funds into super pre-tax – would gross
up the level overall - depends on your own personal income
- Or if you are in a low income bracket – or a partner or spouse
is – below the $38k p.a. level – can place in funds to super as a
non-concessional - $1k gets the $500 bonus
- But super would only be an option if you are either getting
closer to retirement or don’t mind going without the funds until
preservation age – so would by 20+ years
- Extra Mortgage repayments – Offset accounts versus paying down
the mortgage
- Lets say that you have an interest rate of 3.5% p.a. on the
$580,000 – total repayments of $2,608 p.m.
- Interest costs of repayments would be $1,692 p.m. – total
interest cost of $356,600 over 30 years
Examples – Say you have spare cashflow of $2k p.m. = $24k
p.a.
- Mortgage repayment – put $2k p.m. onto the loan – reduce your
mortgage down to about 13.5 years from 30 year period - you would
save $212,805 in interest
- Investing in a fund – gets 8% p.a. on average – put in $2k p.m.
– same time period of 13.5 years (162 months)
- Total investment value is $584,112 - however similar to the
mortgage you have contributed funds –
- Contributed funds is $324,000 - The growth in assets is
$260,112
- So the difference – interest saved versus the growth of the
investments
- Interest of $212,805 versus growth of $260,112 = $47,307 in
additional value
But what happens after this?
- 14 years’ time – you have a mortgage paid off – or around
$400,000 left on the mortgage if you keep making the minimum
repayments
- Now you have another choice – keep investing or make additional
debt repayments
- Say from the 14 year mark – if you have your mortgage paid off
– you can put $4,608 into an investment now that your mortgages are
paid off – or the other scenario – you don’t have the mortgage paid
off – keep making the $2k p.m.
- Investing in 14 years at greater level = $1,897,510 in 30 years
- Taking into account the interest saved of $212,805 – total
value is $2,110,315
- Or keep on the original path by making $2k p.m. = $3m
invested
- So almost a $900k difference over 30 years
- Present value of situation – assuming inflation of 2.5%
- Repaying mortgage then investing = $897k
- Investing along the way = $1.42m
- Passive income point of view – assuming a 5% income yield off
the investments
- Income of $150k versus $95k – both scenarios the mortgage is
paid off and one has a higher income –
- Assuming no super here – which would boost the income on top of
this
- Over 30% more income personally
So what is best? Based around the numbers – investing
- As long as you have enough in the offset or LVR is low enough –
investing
- A lot of it comes down to individual situation and preferences
- If you have 30 years and time on your side – helps to get the
most into investments now to grow over time
Hypothetical – say interest rates kick back in – goes up to 5% -
obviously interest payments would go up
- Interest costs would go to $540k for the life of the loan – up
from $356,600 – so making additional repayments – would save $332k
as opposed to $212k
- Say interest rates go further – The break even for hurdle rate
would be around the 7% to 8% p.a. mark -
Shouldn’t be set in stone – have to be flexible to the world
around us – but at this stage – monthly investing based around some
illustration examples would provide a better long-term outcome
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